MSNBC Unmoved by ‘False Flag,’ ‘Weak Tea’ Trump Group; Matthews Says Extra Bizarre Stuff

Similar to with CNN, MSNBC spent Saturday afternoon doing their greatest to chorus from utilizing optimistic descriptors when speaking about day certainly one of President Trump’s authorized staff, as a substitute calling their transient presentation as having included “a bit of false flag,” not substantive, and “weak tea.” 

Additionally they mocked Republicans being upset by Adam Schiff invoking a CBS Information report with an nameless supply warning that the heads of Senate Republicans would (rhetorically) find yourself on pikes in the event that they vote in opposition to Trump. And, in fact, Hardball host Chris Matthews stated some actually bizarre stuff too about his childhood, however that’s close to the underside so be happy to skip that.

One other mainstay in any respect hours, former Senator-turned-MSNBCer Claire McCaskill replied that Trump legal professional Jay Sekulow employed “[a] Russian discuss level with none factual again up” and was thus “fairly weak tea.”

“[I]f you are going to rise up and counter the times of factual testimony which were dropped at the Senate ground, I might suppose you’d include one thing that may be a little bit stronger than what they had been in a position to give as we speak….it is discouraging that there could be this a lot misinformation within the first two hours,” McCaskill added, faking disappointment.

MSNBC authorized analyst Maya Wiley stated that she “actually agree[s] with Claire by way of the substance,” however then supplied the very best try at being affordable (click on “increase”):

What I noticed is, a authorized staff that didn’t have quite a bit to work with utilizing what they’d as successfully as they may. What I imply by that’s, they had been good by beginning with the information, and doing what a reliable protection does, which is to poke holes in information that we heard from the Home managers and that is what they targeted on, as a result of that is what they have, proper. I feel they did that in an efficient approach within the sense that their solely job is to plant sufficient doubt that Republican senators can grasp their hat on that doubt, proper. 

I feel that was their technique and by saying, one, look what the Home managers stored from you, is a approach of planting that doubt, after which pulling ahead these information, as a result of it — actually after they had been being fact-based, like saying, you recognize, Laura Cooper did not have notes to substantiate that they obtained a contact from the Ukrainian embassy noting they know the help was frozen, that may be a — that may be a truth, nevertheless it does not deal with the proof that, the truth is,  the Home managers placed on or the proof within the public file that has come out since that, the truth is, Ukrainians had been fearful in could about their funds. However on this context, in contrast to when Chuck and I might stroll in earlier than a jury the place you did not know the place the jury stood, on this case they did know, they usually might calibrate their doubt — planting seeds of doubt sufficiently for the political consequence they need. 

Fellow lefty authorized thoughts Chuck Rosenberg conceded that “the Republican staff defending the President is aware of they are not going to lose” and so “they created sufficient doubt, they did a great job creating doubt” despite the fact that “[t]hey didn’t have a number of information, however they’d some.”

After former Congressman Carlos Curbelo (R-FL) tried give credit score the place it was because of the Trump staff, Williams mocked complaints from Senate Republicans about Schiff: “Can they actually pin a vote on injured emotions?”

And now we arrive at Matthews, who expressed shock that the Biden’s weren’t the day’s primary focus and disagreed with Deputy White Home Counsel Mike Pupura’s argument concerning the maintain on Ukrainian help.

However after Matthews agreed with a comparability of the impeachment vote to the Iraq warfare vote, Matthews uncorked a weird analogy about Trump and bullies since, apparently, they originate at “any fairly city college like I did and even at a pleasant faculties” (click on “increase”):

This bullying, this use of worry is an instance of precisely what the President was doing to Zelensky. So if any member who’s doubtful proper now about learn how to vote, the magic 4 or six or seven are doubtlessly in a position to vote for witnesses, after they worry this retribution, after they worry the bullying of the President, which they know is true there prepared to return after him, they know he is able to bully they usually know what he did to Zelensky, what they’re afraid they’re doing to them. 

Anyone who went to any fairly city college like I did and even at a pleasant faculties, there are bullies. There are bullies on the bus, on the PTC in Philadelphia that you do not sit close to the again of the bus as a result of the bullies are again there, you do not need to get beat up. You don’t need to be pressured to eat a cigar or another bizarre punishment they cooked up at the back of the bus and they also know what the bully is, this President is a bully, they’ve received proof firsthand.

MSNBC Senate Impeachment Trial
January 25, 2020
12:03 p.m. Jap

BRIAN WILLIAMS: By my checklist, the preliminary gadgets that they stated the Democratic managers did not need you to listen to, they did not — they didn’t clarify, burden sharing, a phrase we do not usually affiliate with our President, Ukraine did not know straight away, and, in fact, there’s direct testimony to counter there they usually labored in a bit of false flag. They labored within the notion that Ukraine could have meddled in our election, which let’s make it clear early and infrequently is a Russian speaking level. 

CLAIRE MCCASKILL: A Russian discuss level with none factual again up. That is fairly weak tea. , I might — if you are going to rise up and counter the times of factual testimony which were dropped at the Senate ground, I might suppose you’d include one thing that may be a little bit stronger than what they had been in a position to give as we speak. , and total, they stored pushing this theme that he cared about corruption. Now do this on for dimension. The President proper now’s making an attempt to overturn the legal guidelines that ban bribery abroad, proper? 

WILLIAMS: Yeah. 

MCCASKILL: He needs individuals to have the ability to go over from our nation and bribe individuals in overseas international locations, so clearly this man has a — he is a corruption fighter. I imply, it’s so ludicrous that this was about both burden sharing or corruption. All you need to do is have a look at the information. If you happen to talked to his employees, Europe was giving extra money to the Ukraine than we had been by way of rebuilding and supporting them. So we weren’t main the pack by way of serving to Ukraine. Different international locations had been and it’s — it is discouraging that there could be this a lot misinformation within the first two hours. 

WILLIAMS: Maya Wiley on the legislation, on technique, what did you witness this morning?

MAYA WILEY: Nicely, what I noticed, and I actually agree with Claire by way of the substance. What I noticed is, a authorized staff that didn’t have quite a bit to work with utilizing what they’d as successfully as they may. What I imply by that’s, they had been good by beginning with the information, and doing what a reliable protection does, which is to poke holes in information that we heard from the Home managers and that is what they targeted on, as a result of that is what they have, proper. I feel they did that in an efficient approach within the sense that their solely job is to plant sufficient doubt that Republican senators can grasp their hat on that doubt, proper. I feel that was their technique and by saying, one, look what the Home managers stored from you, is a approach of planting that doubt, after which pulling ahead these information, as a result of it — actually after they had been being fact-based, like saying, you recognize, Laura Cooper did not have notes to substantiate that they obtained a contact from the Ukrainian embassy noting they know the help was frozen, that may be a — that may be a truth, nevertheless it does not deal with the proof that, the truth is,  the Home managers placed on or the proof within the public file that has come out since that, the truth is, Ukrainians had been fearful in could about their funds. However on this context, in contrast to when Chuck and I might stroll in earlier than a jury the place you did not know the place the jury stood, on this case they did know, they usually might calibrate their doubt — planting seeds of doubt sufficiently for the political consequence they need. 

WILLIAMS: How uncommon in life you remind me that you recognize you are addressing a 53-47 jury, no less than that is been the tally. 

(….)

12:09:26 p.m.
54 seconds

CHUCK ROSENBERG: All they should do to succeed is maintain what they already know they’ve, proper? And by the way in which, it must be so compelling from the Home managers’ facet to win over sufficient Democratic senators to get you to that constitutional threshold of 67, that I feel the Republican staff defending the President is aware of they are not going to lose. So, to Maya’s level, and I hate going after Maya, as a result of all I’ve to do is say —

MCCASKILL: She’s proper. 

ROSENBERG: — she’s proper. 

MCCASKILL: I do know it is boring, ain’t it? 

ROSENBERG: What she stated. However she’s proper, what she stated, they created sufficient doubt, they did a great job creating doubt. They didn’t have a number of information, however they’d some and by articulating the information they’d, they may give Republican senators or maybe Republican senators who is likely to be wavering, sufficient to latch onto, mission achieved from that vantage level. 

(….)

12:11:19 p.m.
2 minutes and 34 seconds

CARLOS CURBELO: In some methods, the President’s legal professional presentation was stunning. Lots of people had been anticipating a extra animated, fiery show on the Senate ground. It was extra technical and sober, actually by this President’s requirements. I requested a number of the home Republicans the president has appointed to his protection staff why, they usually’re assured. They’re saying they consider that the impeachment managers final night time went too far, alienated a number of the Senate Republicans who might need been extra sympathetic to their trigger, that Senate Republicans are actually unified. The opposite fascinating element they identified is that they suppose that a whole lot of People simply aren’t tuned in. Considered one of them stated we’re right here, this can be a huge deal, clearly, and out of doors the Capitol as we speak, it was quiet, there was nobody. So I feel this presentation as we speak was considerably muted as a result of the President’s staff does not really feel threatened proper now. They do not suppose they are going to be any Republican defectors. 

WILLIAMS: There’s John Cornyn from Texas. Claire, final night time, the emotional excessive level, if you’ll, Adam Schiff quoted this CBS Information report. Unnamed aide to President Trump saying Republicans would have their heads on a pike in the event that they did not vote with the President. A number of Republican senators took umbrage. Collins is alleged to have reacted verbally within the chamber. Murkowski was damage afterwards. Can they actually pin a vote on injured emotions? 

MCCASKILL: Come on, guys. , pay attention, for anyone within the Republican Social gathering to complain about overreach with President Trump within the White Home, actually? It simply does not — it — you recognize, as we are saying within the Ozarks, that canine do not hunt. This is the fact. This President goes after you in case you oppose him. That is clear. I imply, ask Jeff Flake. Let’s name Bob Corker. How about Sanford? How about Jeff Classes?

CURBELO: Nicely, Senator, and what about what occurred in the home? 

MCCASKILL: Sure. 

CURBELO: One Republican who defected can now not be a Republican, so though Chairman Schiff’s type could not have been probably the most persuasive —

MCCASKILL: Proper. I imply —

CURBELO: — I feel it is clearly true that in as we speak’s Republican Social gathering, the President calls for absolute loyalty. 

(….)

12:43:01 p.m.
2 minutes and 59 seconds

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Nicely, all of us thought, primarily based upon the press reviews it was going to be an assault on the Biden household, Joseph, the previous vice chairman and his son Hunter. Immediately was a remedial lesson going again to approach to start with, going again to the whistle-blower, and anybody who’s been following this story is aware of that the whistle-blower opened the door to the reality and we received the reality after which ceased to be necessary. They only received the door open and we received info independently of the whistle-blower, however individuals who have not been following this, who they’re speaking to, do not know that and within the six factors that had been made by Purpura as we speak — Purpura — Mike Purpura made as we speak, that he stated had been established aren’t established. The actual fact — to start with, the pause, using the phrase “pause” — 

WILLIAMS: I famous that. 

MATTHEWS: — it is a dainty phrase, paused. They held up the cash and do you suppose Zelensky did not know they had been holding up the cash? Nicely, we all know — you established with the tape there that he knew it rattling effectively and he knew it straight away and the truth that the President stated I’d like a favor, although, was to somebody who desperately wanted help. The dialog was like with an employer, am I going to get my contract renewed? Nicely then, that is the one dialog. what the dialog is about. When anyone says, effectively, I would like a favor, although. Nicely, you rattling effectively hearken to that and also you knew what it meant, I would like the White Home assembly, the army help, the javelin missiles to combat the tanks. I assumed was preliminary, however there’s one thing rising since this morning and that is using the phrase worry by Patty Murray. I assumed it was fascinating to speak concerning the Iraq vote and whether or not we must always go to — authorize to enter warfare in opposition to Iraq. She stated there was worry round that, you may be punished, Senator, in case you do not again that, perhaps the buddies of Israel, perhaps the hawks, somebody goes to get you politically for this. You’re going to pay politically for this in case you don’t again that warfare and I do know individuals who voted for the warfare mainly out of protection. , we higher — it’s a secure wager. It was the good transfer, as we are saying in Godfather discuss. You would possibly as effectively help the warfare since you’re higher off that approach trigger you are lined. You’re lined if we win, then you definately look good. If we lose, no matter, you’re lined politically. This bullying, this use of worry is an instance of precisely what the President was doing to Zelensky. So if any member who’s doubtful proper now about learn how to vote, the magic 4 or six or seven are doubtlessly in a position to vote for witnesses, after they worry this retribution, after they worry the bullying of the President, which they know is true there prepared to return after him, they know he is able to bully they usually know what he did to Zelensky, what they’re afraid they’re doing to them. Anyone who went to any fairly city college like I did and even at a pleasant faculties, there are bullies. There are bullies on the bus, on the PTC in Philadelphia that you do not sit close to the again of the bus as a result of the bullies are again there, you do not need to get beat up. You don’t need to be pressured to eat a cigar or another bizarre punishment they cooked up at the back of the bus and they also know what the bully is, this President is a bully, they’ve received proof firsthand.

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